Posted by: Dennis Marcellino | November 18, 2008

The real reason why many gays are so angry

Why are many gays so angry? Why can’t they just civilly and intelligently make their case?

First of all, I would suggest not trying to talk gays out of their anger. Yes, if their anger spills over into violence, they should be dealt with like any other citizen whose anger spills over into violence … regardless of any reason why a person might become angry in life.

But it is good to understand the roots of gay anger. Gays are basically angry because of the fact that they ended up “gay” and they are angry at who caused them to end up in this condition (a condition that the American Psychiatric Association up until 1972 called a psychological disease). That could be: their mother, their father, mean kids at school, a rejection by the opposite sex, the unnatural standards of masculinity and femininity in society, etc.

Now they try to ground that anger on anything that stands in the way of them living the lifestyle that they’ve chosen or feel forced to live. That primarily now includes the Bible, the Mormon church, and Christians in general.

Also, gays will always fight for social acceptance because deep down they don’t accept themselves. And they don’t have peace in presenting and defending their position because their lifestyle is indefensible by nature’s standards (and “nature” is where peace comes from).

What about the anger of gay supporters that you often see in protests? They have their own issues, usually having to do with authority and (what I call in my book, The Plague Of Liberalism) “freedom addiction”.

Gays don’t want to be judged or preached at … which is how they view any attempt to have the Bible presented to them. This is unfortunate because that shuts them off to the only solution to their problem, because the Bible gives them a way out, as it has so many already. They want to be free to live the gay lifestyle and ground their sexuality and romance that way or are even addicted to sex. But they go too far when they ask for society to validate that lifestyle. God has destroyed societies for that very lifestyle being legitimized. And God’s creation (nature) is hostile to that lifestyle via the creation of AIDS and other STDs. That’s just a plain, observable fact that can’t be attributed to or blamed on any human being or institution.

If people want to experiment with this dangerous lifestyle, that’s their business. But they shouldn’t ask society to legitimize it, no more than society should legitimize any other dangerous lifestyle, let alone bless it with the legitimacy of “marriage”, which would bring a danger upon us all, given God’s history around this issue. (Notice how Katrina happened right before a large gay parade was scheduled in New Orleans, and also in an area where another societal ill is: casinos).

But “gays” are people first. And we should have compassion on anyone who is having a problem in this life. And if we know a way out, we have an obligation to show the way out. My suggestion to someone who is having a problem with homosexuality would be to do a web search for the many organizations and books by ex gays that offer help with this. Don’t brand yourself as “gay”, but rather, see yourself as just a person who is having a problem with something in life (which is the case for most people on some level), and know that there is a solution to your problem. It might feel good to “belong” to a movement, or it might feel good to find “acceptance” at a local gay bar, but a big issue then becomes: are you finding acceptance by God in your heart? Trying to sweep under the rug God’s lack of acceptance is the reason why alcohol and drugs are a big part of gay life. (But that is also true for a lot of people who are trying to “belong” and fit in and receive “acceptance” with individuals or groups they are in whose ways aren’t receiving peace in their heart from God). You won’t get the solution to your problem perhaps by listening to Christians or Christian churches who don’t know how to articulate the solution well, or from a Godless mainstream psychology community. But it does exist. There are many testimonies to that fact. My offering in that way can be seen at: www.Why-Are-We-Here.org. God bless and good luck 🙂


Responses

  1. sheesh.. first of all..
    knowing that you already did your research about tha ANA’s stand regarding homosexuality..
    have you read the part where they said that ex-gay therapies are harmful?..

    and why don’t you understand that sexual orientation is part of a person’s being..
    when did you ever choose to be heterosexual..
    stop saying things in which you are not sure of..
    PLEASE.. because you really don’t know what it feels like..
    try to live in a world where people are mad at you because you’re hetero and not homo.. wherein they keep on forcing you to be homosexual?..

    now tell me how does that feel?..
    that’s the world we’re leaving in..

    as for my part.. i’m not forcing anyone to accept me..
    i’m just asking you guys to look at us as people.. not like some person with an infectious disease or on with a big problem or even someone with a grave abnormality.. thanks..

  2. Believe me, the last thing in the world that I would want to do is to make someone feel bad. And I do view those who choose or (as you might say) find themselves in a gay lifestyle as people, not “gays”. That’s how I view everybody … as a person. I don’t put people in a box. And I do know how it feels to be looked down on by many people … first as a hippie, and now as a Christian. But I’m not living for “many people”, so that doesn’t bother me if someone doesn’t like me because of their own problem. As long as I’m right with God, I’m fine. The only purpose of my article was to question why “gays” have been so violent lately. Violence by any citizen is of course going to concern other citizens. If you want to reason with me about that, great. You seem reasonable and nice. My article was an attempt to understand why this is happening, as well as the homosexual issue in general. Feel free to respond to the specifics in it, and we can go back and forth. That’s how people can civilly come to understand each other. Like my brother-in-law says, “lack of communication leads to negative speculation”. Thanks for the post 🙂

  3. There’s A LOT of truthful insight in this post. It would actually do a lot of good for people to suspend their judgements and really read this to slowly start to take all that is good and useful to heart from this. Now, I do wonder how Christianism (religion) may change a person’s “instinctual” desires?

    I do not doubt it, I just wonder how people go about doing it and who has seen such a “conversion” take place. I wonder if it doesn’t have a lot to do with absolutely forgiving the father figure and neutralizing all negative feelings/emotions on the matter by utterly “throwing all negativity out” (on the forgiveness process) so they can happily embrace and internalize the male persona as their nature’s true self?

    If so, this would make sense and would be supported by the data.

  4. Wow! I had no idea New Orleans was hosting a fag parade at the time before Katrina hit…& we all know the devastation that hurricane caused…that’s saying alot.

  5. I find it absolutely amazing that gay’s consider anybody who disagrees with them as violent/racists yet they cannot find any proof of it to back their claims up.

    While there are lots of proof of gay protests being violent.

    I’ve notice wherever gay’s go there is always a negative energy field left behind and that organization tends to fall apart from the inside usually.

    Disney theme parks use to be kid friendly but once they started with supporting gay marriage (Gay Day) the imagineers (people who build upon ideas for a better tomorrow) have made many stupid choices ruining the *magic* of the park making it more like Universal Studios.

    Walt Disney would be rolling in his grave at many stupid descisions to shut down rides that don’t need it like shutting down most of the old Epcot rides that were really good without explanation and replacing them with stuped rides.

    Well I guess I should say stupider as no ride is truly stupid but rides have become dumbed down.

    • This is make sense, especially the part about negative energy field. My father was gay, he put me through the fucking hell because I was a young, attractive girl( the very thing he was inside( a woman) , but couldn’t express it in the real life .So, he was jealous of my development. I even stopped developing and menstruating for years since young teenagers because I felt the danger of being killed by him for blossoming into a young woman. I’ve never seen so much hate in any dirty fag. I only didn’t kill him because that dog died by himself. Rest In Hell, Eugeniy.

  6. It’s like it’s illegal to even SAY you disagree with Gays.

    • Right. Where’s the freedom of speech? I have no personal animosity towards people who choose the gay lifestyle. But the truth is the truth. Homosexuality is against nature and it’s against the Bible (which I prove is as book of all truth in my book THE PROOF that God exists and the Bible is True). I think that people who try to suppress open-minded, calm, intelligent discussion about this are insecure about their position and therefore can only resort to name-calling in their responses. But allowing homosexuality to be publicly supported and protected has the ultimate result of a lot of people suffering and dying. And that’s unfortunate because there is a cure for it. But people won’t know that as long as discussion about God and His ways are banned from the mainstream.

      • Gays are harbingers of disease. The CDC data is sobering. The majority of newly reported STDs are still the domain of gay men. Over 60 pct of AIDS and Hepatitis are from male on male sex. These are 2010 figures, meaning that after 30 years of awareness, education, and billions of taxpayer money, gay men are still spreading disease.

        Worse still is the bi sexual that links their plague to the heterosexual population.

        To me, the fact that disease is rampant amongst gays regardless of how much money is thrown at it tells me that at the core of the gay movement is an inherent desire to be filthy, deviant, and careless. I am no PhD , but that seems pyschologically abherrent to me.

    • I like your post, it has a credible data and of prove.

  7. YOU ARE RIGHT. I HAVE A THEORY ABOUT SODOMITES/HOMOSEXUALS. THE BIBLE CALLS THEM SODOMITES. THE LESBIANS AND MALE HOMOS BOTH. THE THEORY IS THIS: AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIFE WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY ARE MOLESTED OR EXPOSED TO SOME SINFUL GATEWAY INTO THEIR SOUL, THEIR LIFE. THERE ARE DEVILS/DEMONS WHO SPECIALIZE IN VARIOUS AREAS OF SIN, JUST LIKE THE MILITARIES HAVE SPECIAL OPS AGENTS WHO SPECIALIZE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF INFILTRATION AND COMBAT.

    THESE DEVILS ENTER THE SOUL OF THE PERSON, AND MAKE THEM FEEL AS IF THEY ARE A SODOMITE. THIS EXPLAINS WHY SOME OF THEM CLAIM THEY FELT THAT WAY SINCE THEY WERE KIDS OR YOUNG. THE ONLY CURE FOR THIS IS FOR THEM TO GET SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, AND, THEN HE WILL GIVE THEM POWER IF THEY ARE WILLING TO TURN FROM THIS SIN.

    I WILL ALSO SAY THIS: GOD HATES ALL SIN BUT HE LOVES THE HUMAN SOUL. HETEROSEXUALS WHO REJECT JESUS CHRIST WILL BURN IN HELL AND A HOMOSEXUAL WHO TRUSTS IN JESUS AS HIS OR HER ONLY ETERNAL SAVIOR, GOD IN THE FLESH, WHO DIED FOR THEIR SINS ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD, WILL BE SAVED AND GO TO HEAVEN. THEY WILL LOSE REWARDS AND FACE CHASTISEMENT ON EARTH BY GOD IF THEY KEEP DOING IT, BUT, THEY WILL BE IN HEAVEN IF THEY TRUST IN JESUS ALONE FOR SALVATION. ETERNAL LIFE IS A FREE GIFT AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR BEHAVIOR.

  8. I hate how this faggots are trying to turn American women into filthy, moral less, unnecessary violent, careless bitches through the pop culture, media , fashion, and another sources of gay domination.

    • Anna, Hi! I’m sorry to hear about what you’ve gone through. But perhaps you can turn it into a positive by exposing the effects of what you’ve gone through and show that the whole gay picture is not as rosy as it’s being portrayed in the culture.

  9. I think its much better for lesbians than gay men. They have a different agenda usually more (love) than lust it seems. in the gay world men are (online) full of lust. I am HIV and only from oral sex. I find that str8 men who do contracting and are mid 30s early 40s are hot. I wish i acted on pursuing guys at home depot than on Craigslist. Dying from a blow job is quite dumb. I agree with kyle though. He seems like an honest, intelligent guy. It all comes from within the gay community, i have had almost zero conflict with the str8 community because i don’t flaunt or act a certain way. I keep it private.

    • Ron, Thank you for sharing your unfortunate outcome. I had a roommate who died from AIDS at a young age. Also, thank you for your tone of ‘human sharing with fellow humans’, and not gay vs. Straight 🙂 In the ultimate sense, we’re all in the same boat. Like I’ve said, I don’t think that anyone is born gay, and it’s just another one of those experiments in the life that we just find ourselves in … until we finally figure out how to get in harmony with our Creator and His designs. Therefore, HIV is just a bump in the road … a road which is temporary anyway for us ALL. The key to success is to line up with our Creator BEFORE life ends. That has eternal consequences. Good luck 🙂

  10. I’m gay, I came from a stable home, never was rejected by a member of the opposite sex because I never had an interest in them (people don’t choose to be gay), and I also consider myself fairly masculine (I like sports, horror films, etc.) I’ve never had an issue with Christians, as long as they (along with every other dogma) avoid proseletyzing. I’m not an angry person, and never have been.
    I regularly attend the pride parade in Chicago, and I’ve only seen a bunch of people having a lot of fun. I’m not sure whether you’re lying to further an agenda, or whether you are just uninformed, but as a member of the LGBT community I have never experienced the things you talk about, nor have I met anyone who has actually changed their sexuality (slept with quite a few who denied it). I am also in a loving and committed relationship.
    I get the sense that you don’t know very many gay people on a personal level, I suggest you have a nonjudgmental conversation with one of ‘us’ (we are as diverse in every way as straight people). You may be surprised to find out that we generally aren’t self-loathing, and that these silly myths don’t reflect reality. I’ve seen more vitriol in the comment section than I’ve ever encountered in the gay community.

    • Kasey, Okay, you’ve explained your position and your facts, now I’ll explain some more of mine in light of what you said. Regarding me not knowing any gays, I’ve known and worked with a lot of gays (I grew up in San Francisco). And the ones that I’ve known personally I find their personalities as being nice and enjoyable. So I’m not putting gays down or judging them personally. My blog was mainly directed at the angry activists who yell “homophobe” etc. I’m not a homophobe (which means fearing). I’m friendly with all people who are friendly in return. But I did have a gay roommate who died from AIDS in his twenties. And I personally have found a great path in life in Christianity. Before that I had some inner turmoil. I haven’t since becoming a Christian. Now what it comes down to is: is the Bible a book of truth? I’ve scientifically proven that it is. Now if that’s the case, then gays are doomed in the afterlife. So basically I’m giving that message … for each person who is living the gay lifestyle to reflect on if they are concerned about their afterlife. And then I leave it at that. I’m just giving you some facts, and then it is up to you to deal with them however you wish. But then you’ll reap the consequences for what you decide. But I think that gays need to hear the other side of the story, and I would feel guilty for not telling it. I’m not condemning anyone. I’m just doing that. I have found my gay friends to have more likable personalities than the average macho male in the world (I don’t know any macho gays). And you might have a pleasant life. But life is temporary. And then what happens after that? Is there a gay heaven … or is it just lights out? I’ve proven that there is a Heaven and a God and that He has certain standards for being able to go to Heaven. And those standards are put forth in the Bible, where Jesus said, (unlike what is commonly thought) only “few” make it to Heaven. And that is where proof and experience have led me. So people need to hear that side of the story too. Then they can make their own decision, and then reap the consequences of the decision they make. So I appreciate your civil response … and I hope you appreciate mine 🙂 I forgot to mention that I have a relative who was gay and is no more and has raised a nice family. It was Christianity that saved him.

  11. Two things lead to my conclusion. (1) The Bible (which I’ve proven to be true) is totally against homosexuality, and therefore people need to be warned that being gay is dangerous and there’s a better way. (2) As a Christian, I realize that there is a general persecution against us, but that doesn’t make me angry. No matter where the world and others are at, I feel a general peace with how things are because I’m tied to a perfect God and He gives me peace.

  12. I am not angry that I’m gay. Homophobia is often the reason why gay people are angry. Since you haven’t listened to any REAL gay people; people who aren’t gay just because they see it as a trend; all you can do is assume.

    • I have a question for you. It dawned on me recently that the gays that I can think of don’t have strong, loving, affirming fathers in their lives. There’s often a divorce involved. And being that homosexuality is anti nature and anti Bible, it makes me think that a gay lifestyle is trying to make up for a missing father’s love and affection and affirmation. Does this make sense to you?


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